Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is continually under blistering attack from those who exploit the politics of COVID-19 without regard for health or safety. However, as you will see below in comments delivered today by DeSantis and previous (non-criticized) opinion from the U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard, what the Florida governor is doing is EXACTLY what the Director of the U.K. Oxford Vaccine Group has recommended for all world leaders.
Evidence around the world is showing that vaccination will not stop the spread of COVID-19, and it will, as a result of a vaccinated approach, continually mutate into ever-changing variants.
Vaccinated persons and non-vaccinated persons can equally be exposed, equally be infected, and equally carry the virus and all the variants therein. Thus the value of making a distinction between vaccinated and non-vaccinated persons, as determined by any policy that requires proof of vaccine, is -in fact- futile. Vaccine passports are an exercise in manipulative political theater.
During statements today in Lakeland Florida {direct Rumble Link}, Ron DeSantis again repeated that vaccines have an effective and reasonable place in the overall effort to protect people from severe health crisis as a result of COVID-19 infection. However, if the goal is to protect life and increase survival rates amid those who contract SARS-CoV-2 or variants therein, the vaccine itself does not provide that protection. The DeSantis approach is to combine vaccination for the most vulnerable, with easy access to therapeutics and treatment for everyone – regardless of vaccinated status. WATCH:
What Florida Governor Ron DeSantis outlines in that press conference and answer to questions, is exactly the approach recommended several months ago by Sir Andrew Pollard, the Senior U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain.
The commonsense therapeutic approach should be the primary focus, not vaccination, for ongoing healthcare systems as the COVID-19 variants will continue to evolve. DeSantis promotion of monoclonal antibody treatment is one highly effective tool to accomplish the goal of successful treatment and recovery.
Ultimately, the natural immunity process will be of greater overall benefit than vaccinations which will require continual boosters to deal with the ever-evolving variants (a similar approach to dealing with reoccurring and evolving flu strains). Listen to the leading U.K. Vaccinologist in Great Britain, Sir Andrew Pollard, and contrast these recommendations with the approach the Florida Governor is taking (SHORT VIDEO):
https://rumble.com/embed/vihwmr/?pub=4
In essence, both Dr. Andrew Pollard (Director of the U.K. Oxford Vaccine Group) and Dr. Malone, a U.S. leading expert on pandemics, state that variants of the COVID-19 virus will continue to spread throughout the population regardless of vaccine status; and the virus will continue to evolve into more infectious but less deadly or pathogenic strains.
There simply is no way to vaccinate the population and stop the spread of COVID variants, because the vaccinated will contract and spread the virus just like the non-vaccinated. The vaccine approach should be targeted to the elderly and those most at risk from a respiratory virus.
The benefit of the vaccine should be weighed against the individual’s current health status. Elderly populations with lower immune responses should be the target for vaccination; they are the most at risk. However, younger -less at risk- individuals will likely benefit more from therapeutic treatment after exposure *if* they experience any symptoms at all.
The problem is, this commonsense approach is less favorable to the interests of the pharmaceutical industry and the healthcare systems that are controlled by the financial mechanisms inside the business of healthcare. Big Pharma would obviously make less money from a smaller target population for vaccination; ergo, the therapeutic approach is a threat to the preferred approach of those who operate the business model. This is the overarching political battle.
The influence of the pharmaceutical corporations, inside the institutions of government controlled healthcare on a global basis, is massive. Their self-interest is the origin of the vaccinate push and vaccine narrative as the *only* and *best* solution.
Anyone who raises a question, challenges the approach, or stands in opposition to mandated mass vaccinations, then becomes a target to be isolated, marginalized, ridiculed and removed.
The COVID-19 virus is a politicized space where competing narratives are battling for position. Most of the information now pushed by the media is done along these political lines.
Social changes, complete structural shifts amid a world of interconnected nations, under the guise of “Build Back Better” COVID-19 mitigation is the goal and aspiration of the political left on a national and global scale. COVID-19 is a virus, but also a very important political weapon, and we are discovering what the purpose of the hype is all about. {GO DEEP}
There has been a great deal of discussion about the vitriolic, almost rabid disposition of people who are pushing the vaccination.
This should not be a surprise, although it might be disconcerting to find formerly reasonable people in your network, perhaps even in your family, now become seemingly unhinged if the subject arises.
It is demonstrably true, there has been a cleaving of our American population as the debate about the COVID vaccination rages on. However, it is wise to consider the underlying psychology of a person who has been vaccinated, before engaging in an argument.
You may end up being entirely correct in your position; however, an intense or combative argument? At what cost?
A vaccinated person is, as a consequence of their decision, in an irreversible frame of mind. Once the vaccination has been injected into a persons body, there is no turning back; the Rubicon has been crossed, the event horizon closes, there is no retreat.
Any conversation or debate about vaccine efficacy or long-term consequences with a person who has accepted the vaccine must be weighed accordingly.
The no-retreat baseline can, often does, form the origin of anger and vitriol, particularly in unstable leftists -who are, by nature of their ideology- professional blame-casters and prone to emotional responses as a matter of disposition. Therefore, it is better to avoid the topic entirely (if possible) and retain your peace of mind.
Revelations over the past few years have led to the complete collapse of credibility for many institutions. The healthcare field is the latest example of a politically controlled ideological industry that can no longer be trusted to make decisions based on a detachment from their political interests.
The healthcare industry has joined the education system, the justice system (DOJ), law enforcement (FBI), the intelligence system, arts and entertainment, as well as many organizations now controlled through the prism of politics. Political ideology, as the determining factor of institutional behavior, has infected almost every facet of modern life; healthcare is no exception.
Given the nature of the metastatic corruption, very visible in multiple institutions, it is completely understandable that more people would not trust the National Institute of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) or any other regulatory body or agency now vested in the COVID vaccine.
There is every reason not to trust the healthcare industry on the issue of vaccination(s). Indeed, their obtuse behavior, logical disconnect, false assertions and gross hypocrisy is more than enough to create doubt about the vaccine. Then overlay the lack of consequence for all known institutional corruption, and there’s even more reason to doubt them.
We should all cherish, respect and value the differences of opinion of this very personal issue. Healthcare is a personal and private matter. Other people have different factors, risk-factors and hundreds of considerations that guide or have guided their decision. We should all respect that; and we do not want to see ‘vaccination status‘ become a fragmentation problem for our CTH community.
We are all in the same foxhole.
It comes down to orthodox fascism: the combination of the Polity and Crony Capitalism with Large Corporations.
BTW, a note… Sundance. Your prose is good reading but “the event horizon closes”… what exactly do you mean by that? The event horizon can be “crossed” as energy falls into the gravity well and the emitted photons (*) are trapped at the point where their kinetic energy (**) and the gravitational field negate each other…. but how do you “close” an event horizon?
(*) As mass falls into the gravity well it accelerates and gain energy. It becomes unstable and must eject energy in the form of very high energy bosons.
(**) Hmm… photons (a type of boson) don’t have “classical kinetic energy” since they have no mass… but in a relativistic way they do have mass… proportional to their energy.
wut? ?
Astrophysics. Cool.
I read Leonard Susskind’s book on his battle with Stephen Hawking regarding black holes. It was truly enlightening.
tonyE, Did you just discover the God particle? After reading this 3 times, I believe that you have. Thanks for the brain twister at day break.
I call it Neo Fascism. The cabal itself likes to call it Innovative State Capitalism.
We need to put a name on the enemy.
Errr….all accurate. Perhaps a simpler interpretation is in order? Once the event horizon is “crossed”…there aint no going back!
I will agree that our FL Governor has been on a Red Wave surge. If he was not a “professional politician” he would have called for a forensic audit of the 2020 election on January 7th. We had an amendment on the ballot, 15.00$ @hr minimum wage. I do not trust that it passed. None of my congressional representatives that “have been” in the game are worth their salt. Their silence is deafening. We are coming. We want all to know this. We are silent no more. One precinct at a time.
Remember to have the wisdom to control the things you can.
FTA “…we do not want to see ‘vaccination status‘ become a fragmentation problem for our CTH community”.
Not just in this community, but every community.
Great thing is, I’m hearing this same sentiment more often in more places.
Where outside of places like the CTH? The Jabbed are The Chosen Ones! They are not going give up that status. Everything is stacked against the Un Jabbed.
And that, right there, is an example of a fragmentation problem.
In the outside world the Jabbed are not being attacked. It’s totally one sided Pro Jab. They are receiving unfair benefits. The Non Jabbed are the ones being attacked. I don’t see any real support of the Non Jabbed by the Jabbed. The Freedom of Choice talk by pro Jab Pubs (who isn’t on the national political stage?) is not genuine.
Jabberwocky
The so-called “jabbed” are just barely finding out right now that the “jab” might have been worse for them. People, like me who got the vaccine, just wanted to be free. So, give it time…the only “jabbed” people gloating are the Left. Keep that in mind. It was a choice I made. I always respect other’s choices. It’s the Left — but now, they are saying you won’t be “allowed” to be free if you don’t get the “booster” shot. We’ll all be in the same boat again. So, there you go — it’s the Left.
This is not true. Most Pubs in Congress, Senate will back the Boosters. They are part of the scam. There will be plenty Pub supporters that will continue to believe in the Jabs. Let’s see what President Trump does. He hasn’t said he will not take the Booster. He is still pushing the Jabs hard. Also the Jabbed are not just gloating. Many want the Un Jabbed to be force Jabbed. Those types are mostly on the Left but there are plenty of Pub Globalist that feel the same. I have no sympathy towards the Jabbed because there is None for Un Jabbed. Where I live you can’t say you are not Jabbed.
Oh, I say it all the time. And I let my discretionary spending go to like-minded travelers. I starve that beast and I stand proudly with God.
The vaxxed are afraid to challenge me why I don’t take experimental injections because, on some level, they already know why. I hear their whispers of side effects they don’t want to admit, even to themselves.
I don’t talk about it unless I am asked. I don’t push or preach. But I am ready to guide these people to calmer waters when they are ready to listen.
One friend crowed about his jabs, and then went into heart failure soon after. Now looking for a spare heart.
Once I started high dose ivermectin, the phelgm in my COPD went away after years and years…
Jabberwocky
Bingo!
Jabberwocky
And big Pharma just keeps rolling in the dough. I would hope that people who get the jab realize it is not free.
If I’m accosted, as a high comorbidity person, they’re going to get a faceful – a lecture on math, prophylaxis and early treatment. I know that I’m better protected with what might be called high dose, high frequency, trigger happy (more chemistry for potential exposure) prophylaxis.
I used to research and kill exotic organisms for a paycheck in an adversarial situation with lying actors. Good preparation for 2020.
I have been jabbed as you put it, but with great reluctance. I agree 100% with the article. I received the J&J jab so that I may go on a cruise with a lot less hassle. I had the virus back in October 2020,I am 64 with multiple comorbidities. No bid deal, I look at this virus like the flu. I would not have gotten the shot if I did not like to travel internationally now that I am retired from the airline industry.
Pierre Kory, MD MPA
@PierreKory
Dr. Angell, also former editor NEJM: “It is no longer possible to believe much of the research that is published, or rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion reached reluctantly over 2 decades as editor.” (2009)
6:06 PM · Sep 7, 2021
*****
Pierre Kory, MD MPA
@PierreKory
Dr. Relman, former editor of NEJM 2002: “[Doctors] are being bought by [Pharma], not only in the practice of medicine, but in teaching & research. The academic institutions of this
country are allowing themselves to be paid agents of the
pharmaceutical industry. It’s disgraceful”
5:37 PM · Sep 7, 2021
Desantis has a plan that is working and can speak intelligibly on the subject, unlike the installed POTATUS. I still think he would be a shoo-in for POTUS next election, if we can overcome the cheating.
He would be my choice x100.
Pierre Kory, MD MPA
@PierreKory
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One possible silver lining to all the horrors of COVID – Big Pharma’s corrupt tactics playbook finally gets fully exposed and dies.. forever (or at least we all learn to fight back harder)
Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care
@Covid19Critical
· Jun 15
Merck’s new drug shares molecular similarities to #Ivermectin. And why wouldn’t it? IVM is in a COVID-19 superstar lane all by itself and Merck, who held the patent until 1996, knows this.
It is criminal for the U.S. to pay Merck $1.2B when we already have the GOAT. twitter.com/sarf7a9z/statu…
G-d bless Dr. Peirre Kory. He is on the front lines and is a blessing to humanity.
Follow the money. When quinine was removed from being sold without a prescription the FDA said it was dangerous, that some people became ill.
A migraine medication that I and my son took because it was the only medication to work on our migraines, also an old reliable proven cheap drug, was totally banned by the FDA, stating it was dangerous. At that same time the new medications were rolling out for migraines……injections of a specific drug, which costs hundreds of dollars per shot.
FDA also took other medications off the market, drugs that were old and proven, low cost, did not cause any major issues with people. These reliable drugs were replaced with “newer and better” that cost a whole lot more money, but more importantly the new and improved drugs did not work as well. Still do not work as well.
Absolutely. Same with nutraceuticals.
FDA is a murdeous (p)Harm-a-ceutical service company, pay for play.
Love My Governor, Ron DeSantis
I love your governor too! May God keep him safe. He is a blessing of hope for the rest of the country as well.
I’ve been vaccinated at the insistence of my wife. I will not get a third shot. I am not invested in insisting anybody get vaccinated. Your choice.
I was also vaccinated (Moderna – two shots). I very much wish I was not but, given the job I have, at the time I felt it necessary. I also gave in to the notion that I wanted my life back. What I should have done was to go with my gut. That was to wait a year or so and see how it shook out. Now I see that my gut was the way to go and I feel like a fool. Given all I have read here and other places I will not get another C-19 vaccine. I agree with you – you want to get the shot? Do it. If you don’t? Nothing negative should happen to you. Nothing.
But this isn’t the case. Everything stacked against the Un Jabbed. We have no real support. The Pubs that talk about choice really don’t mean it. They want us to be Jabbed so the issue goes away.
Don’t beat yourself up, at the time you made the choice that seemed the most logical. It is what it is, live your life and enjoy it as best you know how doing the things you love and enjoy. One way or another they are going to get us because none of us seem interested in getting them, so just have fun and keep the gratitude flowing. You will be fine.
I refused the boss’ stab demand and got fired. Now I’m 64 and living on peanuts until SS. I don’t blame you for not wanting a similar fate. But you should have joined me.
Were you actually fired or did you voluntarily terminate yourself? It is illegal to fire somebody who doesn’t consent to a medical experiment. That is why employers always offer exemptions.
This is about freedom of information and *informed* consent. It is also about the freedom to choose what goes into our bodies and into the bodies of our own children.
If Americans cannot agree on those points, there is no more to say. These are our God-given rights as human beings codified under our Constitution. Those who refute us turn their backs not only on our Constitutional Republic, but also on our Creator.
It’s not just a 3rd shot. It’s endless Boosters. Also there isn’t a REAL choice. It’s a one way street. Everything favors the Jabbed.
Respectfully, no. Once those boosters roll out – am thinking they’re part of Biden’s Thursday announcement — the jabbed people will be considered UNvaxxed without the boosters. That puts me right smack where you are. Please don’t discount those who stand beside the unvaxxed. We will be facing the same discrimination by refusing the boosters.
So you will be the Un Jabbed. Or half Jabbed or whatever? Most will take the Boosters and gain unfair advantages based on a scam. Even President Trump hasn’t committed to not taking the Booster. My guess is the Pub (again what national level Pub is not pro Jab?) line will be Strong Pro Boosters. Sorry I have no sympathy for the Jabbed.
I think you’re wasting your brilliance on Sabre. He’s mad, and he’s staying that way. Good luck to you, Fionnagh.
Yes I am mad. In my sport I have to take a PCR test before every competition because I am not Jabbed. This is what is coming for everything. Probably the PCR will be dropped too (see NYC). Mean while the Jabbed just have to show some PO S CDC Scam Jab card. They wear the sh it like a badge of honor!
Crypto. Dark Web. Russian Vaxx Card.
Be will, Fionnagh. I keep praying for you. Please stay strong in the struggle.
This is true. But we will also see more vaccinated people suffering from effects of the vaccines themselves. And it looks like that will be used to turn them against those of us who refuse the boosters. So hold onto your hats.
And if you were vaccinated, you can also investigate the remedies to see you through any of the possible side effects.
I agree that the only people who are home-free now, are those who enjoy natural immunity from a prior infection and have not taken any vaccines.
Anyone know what’s happening w/ this lawsuit in India?
….”The Indian Bar Association (IBA) sued WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan on May 25, accusing her in a 71-point brief of causing the deaths of Indian citizens by misleading them about Ivermectin. “……
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indian-bar-association-sues-who-scientist-over-ivermectin/article_f90599f8-c7be-11eb-a8dc-0b3cbb3b4dfa.html
The Un Jabbed (me) are on there own. There is no Pub Anti Jab support. In France the Jabbed are joining the protests because they see the mandates and passports as an infringement on their freedom. Here in America it’s the opposite. The Non Jabbed are the enemy. No Pub is on the anti Jab side. They want us to go away.
So what? We’re used to seeing all public officials and celebrities arrayed against us. That’s no reason for us to fight among ourselves. It’s just one more issue on which they can oppose us, no different from anything else.
I said there is no Pub Anti Jab support! They want us to go away.
Eff the Pubs, they are a profit institution like the rest. It’s on us and God.
President Trump continues to push the Jabs. He hasn’t said he will not take the Booster. Doesn’t understand why the Booster is needed but still pushes the Jabs. Does that make sense?
Why is there no massive protest against the Jabs? Even in Commie France there are massive protests. Here zip! Tells you the state of the American population.
I watched both American Greatness interviews of Dr. Malone with Jen of EpochTV.
The most frightening thing he discussed was how vaccines and boosters to cover variants caused by the vaccinated will lead to one end-point, i.e., we will have one too many variants for which a vaccine will not work, a super-virus, similar to the problems we have now with super resistant bacteria because of overuse of antibiotics.
He also said natural immunity should be allowed for all who are not an at risk group — as natural immunity for each variant would provide natural immunity for the super virus mutant.
I found the 2nd interview the best — it was nice to see him just talk in depth without interruption from the host.
This is where I part with Dr. Malone. He has been Jabbed. He believes they work to some degree and the side effect dangers are ok for these at risk groups.
Dr. Malone stated clearly that he took the jab to allow un-fretted travel to continue his work.
Yes, and in a silicon valley conservative forum (forget the exact group), he stated he had “long covid” despite the vaccine. I think he was on day 3 of treating with ivermectin when he did this forum, and said he felt better than he had in a long time. This, despite prior, frequently calling that drug “not a silver bullet” in so many appearances.
He’s genuine, thoughtful, measured, rational and an effective communicator. Traits that tyrants hate.
I know all of this. I listen to his talks. The bottom line is he sees value in the Jabs for at risk so he sees value in the Jabs. Also he has $$ interest in therapeutics. He has mentioned it. I like Dr. Malone but he can be wishy washy. While Dr. Bhakdi pulls no punches.
https://rumble.com/vka7el-m.d.-prof.-sucharit-bhakdi-new-evidence-on-sars-cov-2.html
Yeah, there’s always a reason why the take a knee.
Yes he gave in. At least admits it. I still don’t agree with pro Jab stance for the at risk. This shows that he thinks the Jabs have some value.
Where has he traveled? In the USA we travel domestically without vaccine cards. People are anticipating problems that haven’t even happened.
My aunt did this. She got injected so she can fly domestically. Guess what? We can all fly domestically. So it is premature for her -and others- to give in to this mass human experiment.
While I wholeheartedly agree civil conversation on any health topic is best as are all topics, the fact that the psyops push to persecute non vaxxed people is over the top and has to stop. When non medical people insist you get vaccinated for the ‘sake of others’ is ludicrous and deliberately divisive. I only ask to be left alone and not harassed about my decisions. When it gets obnoxious I present the facts that are being reported around the world concerning this experimental forced on us vaccine and get responses like ‘that’s misinformation. The best response I have is to point them to the facts on the ground as we know them thus far. We all know this is a global effort by those in so called authority to divide and conquer the whole planet. I honestly don’t give a damn what people think about my choices I just ask that they not try to push it on people who really don’t want the jab. Equal footing on this matter will not come to fruition, the psyops is working all to well for the evil that’s pushing it.
The problem is most in America don’t see it. The Jabbed don’t see the Freedom issue. They just think the Un Jabbed are the enemy and need to be Jabbed. This includes all Pubs because their Freedom talk is not genuine. They see the Un Jabbed as being stupid. This includes President Trump. He isn’t going to say it in public. He continues push the Jabs while questioning the Boosters. How hell does that make sense?
None of it makes sense, maybe that’s why it’s an obvious psyops operation. The facts are incomplete and under reported. I know people who took the jab and developed serious physical issues and their doctors deny it has anything to do with the jab they took. No menstrual cycles after taking the jab, constant sinking strength and just outright feeling off. People are going to eventually see and start to question what’s happening to them and I for one worry about them. I don’t want to see this harm being done to people.
Yes I agree. I am sure I am hated here but I just can’t give into the overwhelming attack (not here but by the outside World) on the Un Jabbed. It’s ridiculous to even mention having sympathy for the Jabbed when they are being given unfair advantages based on a scam.
I don’t hate you at all… I get it completely. My brothers in arms are now falling for it day by day. Now I’m the black sheep among them. They’ll high five you but inside they are glad they got to remove the yellow armband. They move on while I sit (with amazing natural immunity, thank you).
I don’t fault the injected for not having informed consent. But I do fault them for participating in the oppression of others who do *not* wish to volunteer for this unprecedented, experimental mRNA technology.
When you whip out your vaccine card to eat and move about freely, you are consciously oppressing others who do not have the same freedoms you enjoy, simply because we are all God’s children and “free” American citizens.
Help us to preserve liberty and justice FOR ALL. ????
Unfortunately not enough people do know, “We all know this is a global effort by those in so called authority to divide and conquer the whole planet.”
Listen, people who did not “get” President Trump certainly will not understand what The Great Reset is all about. Baby steps.
None of these jabs are protecting anybody. They are a brand-new technology that has serious flaws. What, then, is the upside to continuing these dangerous mRNA experiments? Whatever happened to lab rats?
In the past couple of months I’ve heard countless stories from folks I know who are developing suspicious health issues post vaccination. Very few of them had heard of the VAERS system to report their symptoms and when I told them about it, they weren’t interested.
This got me thinking about how curious (cat) it is that among so many egregious things related to covid, that the powers that be don’t seem to be urging people to report any adverse event, even if they don’t know if it’s related to the vaccine or not. To me, this is proof positive (not that we need any more, but just saying) that these people have no interest in collecting data and determining the risks involved w/these vaccines.
Robert Malone, and likely many others, have been pointing this out, as well, which is that no one can truly make an informed decision about whether or not to get vaccinated because we lack reliable data for people to review and assess risk/benefit. And we’re not collecting the data. (And, in my view, even if we were, would any of us trust the government to be honest and transparent about it? No, we would not.)
Criminals are running the show.
Dr. Malone is ok with the Jab for what he considers the at risk. What about the side effects of Jab for this at risk group? Dr. Malone got Jabbed. Has Steve Bannon been Jabbed? I am sure Peter Navarro has because he was behind Warp Speed.
Perhaps people aren’t interested because they don’t want to end up on some list. Being on a list would entail some sort of intrusive follow-up.
Agree. The people that were killed or permanently injured by the clot shot is being purposely hidden. Doctors and the medical community at large are fully invested in the Covid scam. Hospital profits from Covid patients and doctors are afraid to lose their careers if they speak out.
No one knows the truth regarding these experimental drugs. I am 73 and will never accept the needle. Build up your immune system and live life without fear. Death is inevitable don’t hasten it by trusting drug companies that want you addicted to their products.
I don’t think they out number us but they control all the levers. There isn’t one national level politician (Pub, Dem, ect) on the Non Jab side. They want us all to be Jabbed including President Trump who is no friend of the Un Jabbed.
Look, Desantis is better than most governors but he’s still waaaay behind on the science curve. But at least he’s taking baby steps.
He is a believer in the Jab like President Trump. They both think people that don’t take the Jab are stupid. Sorry but that is the truth. Their freedom of choice talk is not genuine. They see the Non Jabbed as a nuisance that needs to go away.
It’s quite telling that those invested, to any degree, in the COVID vaccines are in on a massive con-job, on both from a scientific and public health standpoints, aren’t willing to call it for what it is: A lie, a bait-and-switch, even if they were “poorly-advised”…
DeSantis, and—gimme a freakin’ break. “Baby steps” at this late stage in the game aren’t enough; nor are they sufficient to sufficiently separate those who would ostensibly benefit from such generous assumptions from the WHO/CDC/FDA/NIAID/AMA…all captured agencies and associations.
“They’re all in on it”, as one family member said last month. I’m inclined to agree, at the risk of going against the VSGPDJT canon.
Yes that is the way I see it. Also I don’t understand why the Jabbed deserve sympathy. The Jab is a scam but they get free pass while the Un Jabbed are treated like criminals. This place is not the real world where the Jabbed can do as they please while the Un Jabbed are shunned and will eventually be subjected to worse (they already are in places like Australia).
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“They both think people that don’t take the Jab are stupid. Sorry but that is the truth.”
Their freedom of choice talk is not genuine.
Have you been Jabbed?
SD should take a poll. I’d love to know who talks and who walks.
Did you even bother to read and comprehend the article? Do you normally walk up and ask people this divisive medical question as if you have a right to know like the tyrannical, leftists liberal forcing this answer by violating HIPPA laws? Pass my comments by….
”Vaccinated persons and non-vaccinated persons can equally be exposed, equally be infected, and equally carry the virus and all the variants therein. Thus the value of making a distinction between vaccinated and non-vaccinated persons, as determined by any policy that requires proof of vaccine, is -in fact- futile.”
I am asked that question all the time. President Trump thinks people should get Jabbed. I haven’t heard hum strongly defend the rights on the Non Jabbed. Same with Desantis. They parrot the establishment Pub party line regarding the Jabs. They are not on the side of the Un Jabbed. They would love to see everyone Jabbed.
FlCCC.net protocols for prevention, early treatment, later treatment and in hospital care. Very thorough protocols based on extensive research and frontline treatment. Early treatment with Ivermectin is effective at preventing hospitalizations. More folks are figuring this out. One Florida County wants Gov. DeSantis to consider this. Ivermectin works for vaxed and unvaxed who get covid:
https://www.theledger.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/09/03/polk-county-commissioners-want-desantis-support-pepcid-ac-ivermectin-for-covid/5719465001/
It’s actually the opposite on a large scale. There is all out assault to take down the FLCCC and their protocols. The goal is a national ban on Ivermectin. There are less and less MD and RN that will prescribe Ivermectin. Also pharmacies that will carry it.
List of Therapeutic Distribution locations.
https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/therapeutics-distribution#distribution-locations
This isn’t for Ivermectin FLCCC Protocols. I am following the Preventive Protocols. The Fed Gov wants Ivermectin outlawed by the FDA. This will be coming.
MaineCoon,
Thank you for the link. May come in handy within the next few months.
Thank you!
“We should all cherish, respect and value the differences of opinion of this very personal issue.”
…like sexual orientation…except that one of the possibilities in that matrix is criminalized?
I’m sorry, Sundance: You sound like Governor DeSantis.
You’ve allowed the Marxists and pushers of “the science” to frame your narrative. That diminishes the value of your efforts.
Everything is stacked against the non Jabbed. The Jabbed are the chosen ones by the Commie Dems and Pubs. Why do they deserve sympathy from the non Jabbed?
No. It’s called manners.
You should try it sometime.
Ouch!
Consider me ill-mannered, then.
This explains the how & why of what’s happening around us.
“MASS PSYCHOSIS – How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL”
excellent
The entire population is not mentally ill. All Commie Dems and Globalist Pubs are. Probably close to half of the country.
I would be so Thrilled is DeSantos went after that doctor for not wanting to treat unvaccinated people.
And example needs to be set….
they can not…I repeat can not let her get away with that….
If she does..that’s a giant leap for these clowns and pushes the envelope into the direction that is desired.
I agree!! It’s evil what that doctor said. The world is totally insane!!!!
DeSantis may be the only one the majority of the country can unite around. He has my vote in 2024 if we still have elections by then.
I regret to say this but this issue will guide my voting support from here on out. That sh-t IS the antichrist in a vial. I’ve already paid a huge professional and personal price for believing in natural immunity. I didn’t come this far to roll over now.
Better fix the election fraud soon
“Thank you, Jenny, for the letter. Marco Polo research group will do everything in our power”
https://t.me/garrettmichaelz
75% is pretty good odds.
From a purely mathematical perspective, statistics indicate that those getting jabbed will be OK.
According to who?
So because it’s been boiled down to four outcomes, every jab results in one corresponding consecutive result? That’s nonsense.
I have a 99.5% of surviving C19 without getting the shot. That is better than 75%.
Totally agree! End of Story!
The shot is killing people, not to mention it isn’t working. I really do not understand the argument that is acceptable to give the injection to the elderly or those w/health issues, seems to me that is piling it on people that don’t need to be piled on. They have enough problems.
Why would you give the elderly an experimental jab? That does not make sense. I have listened to numerous elderly people talk about their health issues after taking it. Their chances of survival with therapeutics is better plus they will be able to fight the next variant. This is not a vaccine and President Trump needs to obtain better information on this topic.
He is MORE informed than anyone. He just chooses to ride the fence. We have enough of those in office already.
Totally agree. One of the few national pundits that agrees is Diana West. She made this statement a month ago and of course I was attacked for posting it.
https://dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/4304/On-Trump.aspx
Big Harma must hide the statistics of all those killed or permanently injured by their products. Endless boosters makes money for the drug companies, helps China, and pays off the politicians.
Exposing the fraud will be difficult. We need independent researchers gathering the information from people that were harmed by these drugs. There are many outlets besides the Lamestream media that can start reporting the facts.
Yes they will not get anywhere. Most people are sheep. They only watch / listen and believe MSM. Even Commie French are protesting over the Jab mandates. Here crickets.
That is where I part with Dr. Malone and Peter Navarro. Both don’t want to admit the Jab is a total failure.
It was the talk of mandatory vaccinations that made me pro choice.
There really isn’t a choice if they make it impossible to live in FREEDOM. That seems to be lost here. Americans have their heads in the sand. As I mention even the Commie French are protesting over mandates that are an attack on their Freedom. Here nothing.
My lifelong best friend and daughter of an advanced Alzheimer’s patient took the stab due to requirements of the memory care facility (as did the poor mom). She knows everything we know about it. I warned her tho to not rest in her now- vaxx- approved status to let me twist in the wind as the communal pressure rises on me to surrender.
This is what I fear will happen: Our loved ones will get stabbed under pressure, then float along above the fray while we refuseniks take the slings and arrows alone. I’ll not let them sit in silence.
Do they have to show a scam CDC Jab card? I am going through this with my sport. Currently I can show a negative 72 hour PCR Test but I can see the federation dropping that. The Jabbed just have to show their scam CDC Jab card. This is where we are at and it’s going to get worse when Commie Dem Xiden lays the hammer down tomorrow. Most the elected Pubs will either Grandstand or except the draconian measures. My guess is President Trump attacks Xiden but still pushes the Jabs (again makes no sense)..
Interesting that Obamacare caused the roll-up of the independent practice groups into the hospital systems. And could this big money group think be a result of that – Yes, I think so. Always the un-intended consequences of government intervention into commerce. Get the Vax, its’ the way back to ‘normal’ but the Israel data is clear – this is not the case. Whack a mole at best with more mRNA protean highjack shots for each variant. No thanks. De Santis is at least a clear thinker. It’s here to stay, we are going to need to cope, just like everything else in life, promote treatment. It’s the only way.
Israel is pushing the Boosters so they are a lost cause.
Obamacare gave absolute regulatory and tax control of the US medical systems and industries to the State.
I wonder if the general public understands why places like hospitals, or even Delta Airlines, require their employees to be vaccinated. I suspect they think it is to stop the spread or protect patients. Actually it is quite clear if you read their statements. Hospitals around the country are short-staffed and by and large their beds are full so they don’t want employees missing work due to contracting Covid. And each hospitalization for Covid costs $50k on average which risks insurance premiums going up. So to keep employees from missing work and jacking up their rates, they enact mandatory vaccinations. Whether the vaccine accomplishes this or not doesn’t really matter. If it is thought to result in it, and mandating it makes administrations look like they taking action, that’s all that matters. Oh, and of course, seeing mandated vaccines for healthcare workers makes some people feel better. If they would be transparent with these reasons they would look terrible, but if they make it seem like they just care a lot and will force employees to do what’s best for the pandemic then they get a pass. Delta Airline tacking on $200 for increased insurance cost is actually pretty honest. That’s the reality. That’s how you vaccines get mandated by the corporate world when it could not be mandated by the government.
Ask yourself. Why are hospitals around the country suddenly short staffed?
Cases are already cratering in FL. Even the CDC is showing a 16.5% decline in daily cases even when using a 7-day moving average.
In reality daily cases peaked back on 8/26 at ~21K even with the seven-day average. Actual Daily cases in the last 2 days were ~12 and 10K respectively.
Yes but Xiden is going to come down hard tomorrow and a good number of Pubs in Congress will Grandstand along with a handful in the Senate with no follow up. The rest will back the Commie Den Xiden Regime.
DeSantis Leadership = Doing the research and taking steps that are in the best interest of his constituents, not listening to the corrupt US government. Kudos to this Governor.
I don’t believe DeSantis supports Ivermectin as a preventive (not sure as a treatment). He is pushing the US government approved Monoclonal Antibody treatment for early China virus treatment. DeSantis is doing good work although I don’t like his super pro Jab stance (see President Trump too). There needs to be preventives like Ivermectin. The Jabs don’t work!
Geert Vanden Bossche, Sucharit Bhakdi and others have stated from the beginning, unequivocally, that you never vaccinate in the midst of a pandemic, never ever; that you will create variants possibly worse than the original (we can assume the worst is still out there). A virus replicates (changes) in 10 hours.
Well, we’ve seen the variants.✔️
And we’ve seen the “yearly vaccination” go from 12 months, to 8 months, and now Fauci and Biden are suggesting 5 months.✔️
Good luck with your vaccinations. He along with others are still crying out to end the mass vaccination programs around the world except for the most vulnerable that the original was targeting. But with all these variants, it’s becoming more and more difficult to know.
Greatest governor in the nation and we are fortunate to have him. He is the demarcation between Florida and the absolutely corrupt federal government.
100% this! Even my friends who are wuflu knowledgeable forget this.
Sister was an exec for WM for 26 years. She was fired 31 Aug 21 for not taking the vaccine. Her daughter is a PhD in neuropharmacology who worked on vaccine. She and her nearly 100 colleagues refused the mRNA vaccine. Older brother, the lib of us six kids, got vaccinated then got COVID-19 a few weeks ago. He was dissing Sis about vaccine refusal. God acts in odd ways sometimes huh?
Anyone believe Fauci got the same vaccine as the rest of us???
Just making a point.
A very good point.
Interesting. While I agree with Sundance on personal choice, this position has consequences once the aperture is widened.
From January 2020, the agencies’ response has been to aggravate the spread and damage, and interfere with actual efforts to mitigate and stop the virus.
DeSantis’ plan is common sense once you realize that therapeutics are all around us in plain sight.
The lockdown and prescription ban/ treatment interference states’ politicians are guilty of tyranny and mass murder.
Big Pharma and the democrats are the Borg, and the Locutus strain is coming.
You know they’re lying.
I’m not anti-vax. I’ve had more than my share of vaccines from a lifetime of worldwide travels and a career handling infectious pathogens. I am anti-COVID vaccines, passports, lock-downs and masks; and not for human transmutation, embryonic cell, or some presumed satanic ritual reasons. Purely for good ethical science and medicine reasons.
These mRNA vaccines are different for a number of reasons, but I don’t really care if they’re the first gene therapies. It’s just another method of delivering an immunogen to produce a wanted immune response. I am concerned about:
1) Ineffectiveness for long-term prevention of COVID infection and transmission
2) A rush to FDA EUA and approval
3) The lack of long-term health and safety data
4) A deficient clinical trial protocol that didn’t include items like screening for ADE
5) An extraordinary amount of reported deaths and adverse events that were ignored
6) No public commentary allowed before FDA approval
Certainly, there are reports of ingredients like graphene oxide and metal particles in vials; however, I’m leaving those reports and concerns to the side. I’m just considering the S1 spike protein molecule that reportedly targets the ACE2 receptor as a single entity.
The scientific data is pretty clear that the S1 spike protein immunogen itself is a thromboembolic pathogen when it escapes the intramuscular injection site. It causes an inflammatory immune response as a standalone molecule. It seems to be responsible for thrombotic, neurological and autoimmune disease-like adverse events.
The mRNA produced S1 spike protein travels all over the body via the circulatory system, even passing the blood brain barrier. Investigators have found the thromboembolic pathogenic S1 spike protein concentrates in the brain, heart, kidney, spleen, testes, and ovaries. It likely concentrates in the liver too.
Why is this important? The pro-inflammatory spike protein itself causes both macro- and micro-thrombotic (blood clot) events.
Macro event are the reported massive blood clots:
1) Sinus cavities
2) Arterial and venous blood clots causing
a. Ischemic stroke
b. Heart attack
c. Pulmonary embolism (PE)
d. Deep vein thrombosis (DVT)
e. Disseminated intravascular thrombosis (DIC)
3) Reported necrosis of extremities that required amputation likely fit here, as well as micro-capillary events.
Micro-thrombotic events include:
1) Reported increased rates of microcapillary clotting in the eyes by ophthalmologists
2) Reduced oxygen saturation and increased blood CO2 levels caused by microcapillary clotting in the alveoli of the lungs so RBCs can’t properly enter the alveoli to exchange CO2 for O2. Fatigue, memory loss, mental fogginess, forgetfulness, deficient physical performance and basic aches and pains will likely fall into this category.
3) Microcapillary thrombosis in and around the brain. Paralysis, memory loss, mental fogginess, numbness, motor-skill deficiencies, tingling of skin and extremities.
4) Pericarditis, myocarditis, and some heart attacks will likely fit into both macro- and micro-thrombotic events as blood oxygen is transported throughout the myocardium via capillary blood vessels.
5) Let’s assume that reported thrombocytopenia events fall into a more micro-capillary event category too.
6) Reported increase in miscarriage during the first trimester will likely fit this category
7) Reported kidney damage will likely fit both micro- and macro-thrombosis
8) Rash with red blotchy skin.
9) Brain cell injury will likely fit both micro- and macro-thrombosis
This proinflammatory or prothrombotic phenomenon is easily measurable with hsCRP, cytokine and other inflammatory and prothrombotic process markers. Thrombotic events are easily demonstrated with a D-dimer test, pre- and post-vaccination. D-dimer is the byproduct of fibrin clot degradation after a blood clot forms and starts to breakdown with a fairly short half-life. It is normally very low or undetectable in healthy individuals.
Why? Dr. Hoffe reports in his patient population, 62% of his patients had elevated D-dimer 3-7 days post-vaccination. Similar findings are described by MDs in Germany. Dr. McCullough mentions elevated D-dimer in his post-vaxx cardiology patients but he’d treating AMI, myocarditis, and pericarditis so it is expected.
Dr. Jalali’s commentary (see below) regarding his experience with treating COVID-19 patients falls right in line with what is described post vaccine itself.
https://farid.jalali.one/covid19emailpdf.pdf
If the patient presents to the physician, ED or hospital sooner with adverse events, it makes sense to immediately test for D-dimer on presentation and followed for several days. At least the attending physician can consider anticoagulant therapy if D-dimer is elevated or rising.
Why hasn’t there a large scale clinical trial in the US to determine if the vaccine causes thromboembolism using D-dimer? If the world’s “body politic” and medicine want universal vaccination at all costs, what IRB (Institutional Review Board) would approve a D-dimer clinical trial if it might cause people to not get vaccinated?
Look at it another way, how could any IRB approve the many HCQ clinical trials that killed patients where they overdosed patients with late stage COVID and without including zinc with the treatment? One can only conclude that “some entity” purposely delegitimized a known anti-SARS virus therapeutic agent being effectively used around the world for early-stage treatment by using clinical trial protocols designed to fail.
After 20 months of COVID lockdowns, arrests, beatings, imprisonment and forced vaccinations, fake clinical trials, and vaccine passports, why would anyone trust anything said by government pertaining to COVID-19 vaccines? Pessimistic or cynical?
When 30+ years of public health policy is thrown out the window for COVID on a global basis, it defies all logic.
Im glad he is my Governor imagine if Gullum would have won. New he must Beat three time loser Charlie Crist
Biden cut of the keystone Pipline and is sending Muslim refugees to take our jobs and he is not asking illegals to get vaccinated. I hope you Biden voters are happy. I work at night delevering Pizza its very dangerous out side Biden defunded the Police