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A Day at the Food Pantry

Hosted by Michael Barbaro; produced by Annie Brown, Stella Tan and Austin Mitchell; and edited by Mike Benoist and Lisa Tobin.

Soaring numbers of New York City residents face food shortages as a result of the pandemic. Here are some of them.

annie brown

— I don’t know.

stella tan

Yeah, that must be it, right?

annie brown

What’s that — that must be it there. Yeah, the Halal food pantry. All right, it’s 7:04 on a Friday morning. [CAR HONKING] The pantry doesn’t open for another couple of hours. And people are already lined up down the block. They’ve brought baskets or little portable chairs so they can sit down while they wait. And they’re waiting for it to open.

nikita stewart

Yes. So before the pandemic, I had covered pantries. And, you know, there would be a few people in line. If you were walking past, you might not have known that it was a pantry. But when the pandemic hit, the need was just unbelievable. You had job loss, but you also had this pandemic that made it difficult for a lot of people to actually volunteer at the pantries. So a lot of smaller pantries have closed. And I’m not saying, like, a few. Like hundreds closed because they were mainly run by elderly volunteers who just could not be exposed to the virus.

annie brown

So as the number of people who need food assistance is growing, the number of pantries has actually diminished. So these things are happening at the same time.

nikita stewart

Yes. And one of the reasons you also see so many people in this line is because this line serves a lot of immigrants. And so it’s like, what are you going to do if you’ve lost your job and you have no public assistance? Getting in this line, you know, this is not a choice. This is a necessity.

michael barbaro

From The New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. This is “The Daily.”

For the last eight months, all over New York City —

ali

I actually got up around 3:00 a.m. And when I looked, I saw the line just already there.

michael barbaro

— lines have wrapped around food pantries.

ali

People are going to wait, like, seven, eight hours just to get some groceries.

michael barbaro

As a million city residents face new food shortages in the wake of the pandemic.

ali

Wow, man, it’s something else. I’ve never seen anything like this, though. I never thought our food pantry would be something like this, or there would be such a big need. Covid just changed a whole lot of things. It has changed entire way of life.

michael barbaro

Today: As we approach Thanksgiving, a holiday defined by food, social services reporter Nikita Stewart with the story of one day at one food pantry in Brooklyn.

It’s Wednesday, November 25.

volunteer

(MAKING ANNOUNCEMENT) Social distancing, six feet apart. You are too close — yeah, it’s loud — you are too close together.

nikita stewart

Earlier this fall, I went with Daily Producers Annie Brown and Stella Tan to Council of Peoples Organization, or COPO, a food pantry in a neighborhood called Midwood in Brooklyn. As other pantries have closed, this one has seen its demand skyrocket.

mohammad razvi

We’d never expected this much. I never expected it. We thought it was — we were doing like 60 clients a week. And now it’s just unbelievable. Thousands — at least 2,000 on the line.

nikita stewart

We meet up with Mohammad Razvi, the executive director and founder of COPO.

mohammad razvi

— is a community based organization that is to help our Americans and new Americans to fulfill their American dream.

nikita stewart

Mohammad himself is an immigrant —

mohammad razvi

I came here when I was about 6 years old with my parents, immigrating from Pakistan.

nikita stewart

— and grew up nearby.

mohammad razvi

I grew up in the Sheepshead Bay projects in Brooklyn. My dad was running two jobs. My mother was running two jobs. I grew up on food stamps. Myself, my kids also. But I worked and I worked and I worked. And you know, I got to running five different businesses. And then 9/11 happened. And after 9/11, people came to my stores, saying, I need help for immigration services. And I ultimately gave up all my businesses. I sold it all off. And this is all I do for the past 18 years.

[car honking]

nikita stewart

COPO operates out of a storefront on busy Coney Island Avenue. By 10:00 a.m., two lines have formed on the sidewalk.

volunteer

(MAKING ANNOUNCEMENT) Essential workers should be on the left side.

nikita stewart

To one side are seniors and first responders. They’ll be given food first. And on the other side is everyone else, in a line that wraps all the way around the block.

volunteer

(MAKING ANNOUNCEMENT) I want a straight line so we can start soon, please.

nikita stewart

A series of tents are set up in the street where parking spots once were.

stella tan

— in this tent that they set up.

nikita stewart

Filled with boxes and boxes of fresh produce and canned goods.

stella tan

And pallets of food. I see some canned corn, canned collard greens, chickpeas.

nikita stewart

It’s a lot of food, literally hundreds of boxes.

[indistinct chatter]

nikita stewart

Dozens of volunteers are running around, getting everything organized and ready to be handed out.

mohammad razvi

So the plan for the day is, as the line grows, there’s going to be 1, 2, 3, 4 people who are going to start to give them tickets.

ali

55, 56, 57.

mohammad razvi

And they’re going to say, OK, please do not lose your slip. Otherwise you will lose your spot in line. Because that’s a huge thing we learned.

pantry-goer

(SHARPLY) She came about 15, 20 minutes ago. Don’t give her no number.

ali

Please, let me take care of this. It’s OK. I don’t want to argue. Please just go back.

mohammad razvi

People were fighting. I’m like, I can’t believe it. You know, you guys, don’t fight, please.

ali

OK, for now, just let it be, please. It’s one extra person right now. Just let it be. It’s OK.

mohammad razvi

So this starts at 10:30. So we’re going to have a team — what time is it? Is it almost time?

volunteer

Almost.

mohammad razvi

Oh, five minutes now. Let me go tell Kelsey. Where is she? Oh, give me a second. (CALLING OUT) Dillard! Dillard.

10

25, get Kelsey, do the group. OK, we’re going to start, guys.

nikita stewart

At 10:30, after hours of volunteer prep work and hours of people waiting in line, it’s finally time to give out food.

mohammad razvi

Go, guys! Who’s my number one? You’re number one. Vamos aquí. ¿Qué paso? Hold this. Thank you, auntie. Come this way.

nikita stewart

One after another, people step up with their empty bags or carts and move down a line of volunteers.

mohammad razvi

Oh, she gets the carrots. Then the watermelon, then the beets, then the onions. And then we get the cucumbers, the canned fruits, tuna and tomatoes. And then we get rice, and then we got the beans and a gallon of milk. Oh, and we got eggs — egg whites. Wonderful. There you go. And then you’re also going to get cilantro.

volunteer

Here you go, ma’am.

pantry-goer

OK, thank you. [INAUDIBLE] cilantro [INAUDIBLE]?

volunteer

You already got cilantro, right?

nikita stewart

As people start to be served —

[music]

annie brown

Shall we walk?

mohammad razvi

Yeah, go on.

annie brown

We’d love to speak with some people in line.

mohammad razvi

OK, so let’s talk.

nikita stewart

We take a walk down the block to meet folks who are waiting.

annie brown

Hi there.

sabira

Hi.

annie brown

Can you give your name? What’s your name.

sabira

My name’s Sabira.

nikita stewart

And how old are you?

sabira

I’m 55.

And I’m unemployed. Because our store fired us, because store filed for bankruptcy. And I was a register cashier.

nikita stewart

How long have you been coming here?

sabira

Already like second month, I think so. We found out they’re giving food, and we start coming.

nikita stewart

And what time did you get here today?

sabira

I came here like around 4 o’clock. And I just put my cart —

annie brown

4 a.m.

sabira

Yes, 4 a.m. to put my cart and go home, and then come back 8 o’clock.

[music]

annie brown

How long have you been coming here to this pantry?

pantry-goer 1

About two months.

pantry-goer 2

About six months.

pantry-goer 3

Last week I came, and that’s it.

stella tan

May I ask how old you are?

pantry-goer 4

I’m 14.

stella tan

14. And how long have you been coming to this food pantry?

pantry-goer 4

I would say a few months, basically, because my mom, she worked at a nursing home. And my dad, he used to be like a food vendor. So we had no source of income. So we had to resort to here. And it was very helpful. And it helped us —

nikita stewart

We heard this kind of stuff from nearly everybody, that they started coming only in the past few months. And they had to come because of job losses due to the pandemic.

pantry-goer 5

I’m working for the hotel, housekeeper.

pantry-goer 6

Making donut, Dunkin’ Donuts.

pantry-goer 7

I sing opera.

pantry-goer 8

I worked at Stouffer’s, the package department.

nikita stewart

How did you feel coming to the pantry for the first time?

pantry-goer 9

Oh, my goodness. I feel so depressed. Because I never go to the line for food. Because always working. I had 30 years in the company working. So I said, oh my god. But you know, it does help a lot.

nikita stewart

What’s your name?

natasha

Natasha.

nikita stewart

Natasha. And how old are you, Natasha?

natasha

I’m 32.

nikita stewart

When did you start coming?

natasha

So when the Covid-19 started, that’s when we started coming. Because my husband has lost his job and I have two kids.

nikita stewart

What does your husband do for a living?

natasha

So he’s a cab driver.

nikita stewart

Oh.

natasha

Yeah. And it was very, very, very hard for us. Because before, I would think that food pantries is something where people go, they’re homeless people. But I didn’t know that we, as a family, we would be ever in need.

nikita stewart

What did you see in your kitchen — or what did you not see in your kitchen where you thought, I have to go to the pantry?

natasha

Yeah, before, were able to — we could go to the store at anytime we want. We buy any kind of snacks for the kids, to have lots of vegetables, lot of fruits, lot of whole-grain pasta and all this. And my older one is 4. He was used to going to the store with us and buying whatever he wanted. So it was not easy task to explain to him that, right now, we’re just not able to do that. But slowly, slowly, he understand. And now, whenever we go to the store, he’s like, OK, how much is this and how much is this? Can we afford that?

nikita stewart

You talked about snacks for your kids. What have you not been able to give them that you could before your husband lost his job?

natasha

Mostly fruit.

nikita stewart

What’s their favorite fruit?

natasha

My favorite fruit or their favorite fruit?

nikita stewart

Both. What’s your favorite and what’s their favorite?

natasha

So they really like cantaloupe. Yeah, they really like cantaloupe and watermelon. And that’s what I like, too, the watermelon and cantaloupe.

mohammad razvi

All right, so let’s go over there.

nikita stewart

Hi.

pantry-goer

Hi there.

nikita stewart

How are you?

pantry-goer

Hi, good.

nikita stewart

What time did you get here today?

pantry-goer

Oh, I get like 8:00, 8:30, yeah.

nikita stewart

Mm-hmm. And how long have you been coming to the pantry?

pantry-goer

Oh, this is the first time I’m coming here.

nikita stewart

Oh, this is the first time?

pantry-goer

Yes. I heard this is a halal place. And I’m a Muslim. And I like to come here to get halal food.

nikita stewart

OK. How old are you?

pantry-goer

I’m 25.

nikita stewart

And are you working right now?

pantry-goer

I actually work in a Burger King. And they are open right now, but I am really scared to go there because I have old parents to take care of. And I’m living in a one-bedroom apartment. So I don’t have a place to quarantine for them. So yeah, it’s really hard time for us. I don’t know how I say the word. It’s like I feel like I’m a poor person right now, and out of money. I never thought about it. Because I thought U.S.A. is a dream place where I can live my life. I mean, if it’s not wearing a mask, then I would never come, I think. Because of the mask, I feel like I can protect my identity. Like no one can see me. And I can come here and get food.

annie brown

What would you be afraid of if you weren’t wearing a mask? Why not come?

pantry-goer

Because, like, maybe my neighbor or maybe someone will see me. And I don’t want to be in the situation to get free foods. Because I can work. But yeah, this is the nightmare for us.

But actually I didn’t know there would be a long line. So yeah, now I feel like I’m not alone like that. Yeah.

stella tan

So my name is Stella. What’s your name?

maria

Maria.

stella tan

Maria. And may I ask how old you are?

maria

28.

stella tan

And I see that you have one on the way. How many months are you?

maria

7 and 1/2.

stella tan

7 and 1/2. Wow. Almost there. And you’re carrying so many bags right now.

maria

Yeah.

nikita stewart

And what made you first start coming to the pantry?

maria

Because I lost my job. I was working on the daycare. I mean, we have to eat. [CHUCKLES] And I’m a single mother, and I’m pregnant. And I said, oh my god, what am I going to do? So it was horrible for me. I mean, I’m supposed to have twins. But for this virus, it’s like — and I lost my job. So it was like depressed and everything. So I lost one. But —

nikita stewart

I’m sorry.

maria

— it was difficult. But now it’s much better. Yeah, thank God. And this has helped a lot.

nikita stewart

Do you know what you’re having?

maria

A girl. [CHUCKLES]

nikita stewart

A girl. Do you have a name yet?

maria

Yes. Yes. It’s Ayana (sp).

nikita stewart

Oh. Why Ayana?

maria

It’s Ayana, it’s a Mexican name. It’s for our village. So it means “gift from the sky.” In the future maybe she could have, like, strong woman. Like right now, before she born, she’s, like, fight for the life and everything. So I think she’s going to be a great woman, fighter and everything. Yeah, that’s what I think.

[music]

annie brown

What number are you on?

ali

678. And we still have three hours to go.

michael barbaro

We’ll be right back.

mohammad razvi

Keep moving, keep moving. I need you to keep moving. Thank you so much. Quickly, guys. [INAUDIBLE] come on.

[sirens]

annie brown

Shall we get an update from —

nikita stewart

Mohammad.

annie brown

— Mohammad about the food situation? Can I ask you for an update about where we are with the amount of food? What have you run out of?

mohammad razvi

I’ve run out of the milk. Milk is on its way. I ran out of the vegetables. And I ran out of a whole bunch of other stuff.

annie brown

Yeah. [LAUGHS]

nikita stewart

This really is slim pickings. Remember, when we first arrived, this whole tent was filled with food. And now I just see boxes and boxes of canned tomatoes. But, like —

stella tan

Some black beans.

nikita stewart

— the cabbage is gone. The watermelons went first. What else was out here? Like —

stella tan

Cauliflower, carrots, potatoes, onions.

nikita stewart

The carrots and potatoes, just gone.

stella tan

All the produce is gone.

nikita stewart

The produce is gone. And for a lot of people, that’s the most expensive thing. So a bag of black beans, we could find for $1.00 or $2.00. Produce is very different. Seeing this right now, at — what time is it — at 2:20, it now gives me a better understanding of why people work here at 4 a.m., and people were putting their carts down at 1 a.m.

mohammad razvi

Keep moving, keep moving. No, no!

volunteer

No, you cannot take the oil. I need you to move forward.

[interposing voices]

annie brown

Seems like a fight over whether or not she can have more oil.

mohammad razvi

No, no, no, no.

annie brown

Oh, that must be so hard.

mohammad razvi

It is, it is, because everybody is saying they need. I know everybody needs, but we’ve got to share with everyone. And that’s the objective. Oh, I’m so worried.

volunteer

Come on, guys, come on, come on, come on!

mohammad razvi

Right this way. I’m still waiting on my milk.

annie brown

Aw, what are you worried about?

mohammad razvi

I was supposed to get 10 pallets of milk and yogurt, which also I wanted to distribute.

annie brown

And it hasn’t come.

mohammad razvi

It hasn’t come. So you know, it happens.

annie brown

And so what’s happened with the line?

mohammad razvi

So we told them to wait, because in nine minutes I should have a truck here.

volunteer

So nine minutes?

mohammad razvi

Yeah, hopefully in nine minutes.

volunteer

OK, I heard 40 minutes.

mohammad razvi

No, he said 2:30. So it’s 2:20.

nikita stewart

Mohammad stops the line just before 2:30 to wait for a big shipment of milk and yogurt to arrive. It’s now nearly four hours since the food started to be distributed.

pantry-goer

Look, please, I’ve been waiting a long time. I was already on line. I was, like, down the block. Can I just have what I want? Do I have to wait here?

volunteer

No, if you don’t want to wait for the milk —

pantry-goer

I can be patient, it’s fine.

volunteer

Do you want to wait for the milk?

pantry-goer

Yes, of course.

volunteer

OK, gotcha.

annie brown

It’s 2:40 in the afternoon. The milk and the yogurt was supposed to arrive at 2:30 and it’s still not here. And now people are getting upset.

pantry-goer

I just needed a cigarette break. [GROANS] You know what I’m saying? But I can’t have one. [CHUCKLES] I don’t know what else to do, OK?

nikita stewart

There’s just a lot of tension. And that’s what I’ve seen in pretty much every pantry I have gone to. There is some kind of complaint or argument, either between people who are in line or the people in line versus the volunteers.

annie brown

It must be so frustrating to be at the mercy of whenever the food arrives.

nikita stewart

Well, here’s the thing about covering poverty. What hurts me the most is the lack of choices and the waiting. People who have nothing, the waiting is horrible.

I don’t think people understand how valuable time is. And the time (TEARFULLY) you have to take.

annie brown

Yeah.

nikita stewart

For most of my life, I tried not to think about this stuff. I didn’t want to think about poverty. So most my journalistic career, I spent covering politics and political corruption. And then, in 2015, The Times asked me if I would be interested in covering social services. And I had to ask myself why I hadn’t covered social services in all the years that I had been a reporter. And I realized that it was just because it hit too close to home.

My family went in and out of poverty. Sometimes there were these great, prosperous times, and there were other times that we were on food stamps. And I have those memories of going to pick up my free lunch card. Sometimes I didn’t go pick it up, because I was afraid someone would see me. And other kids would be like, oh, why aren’t you eating today? And I’d be like, oh, I’m not hungry. And that was so not true. I was starving.

And for the most part my family kept food. But there were times when the food stamps had run out and it wasn’t the first of the month yet. And I remember this time when my mom was at work. My sister and I, we opened the refrigerator, we opened the freezer, and there was very little there except for these two frozen burritos. We had been washing the dishes. And when I went to open my burrito, it fell into the soapy water and I couldn’t eat it. And I remember my sister split her burrito with me. And that’s what we ate that day.

(TEARFULLY) And it’s something I’ll never forget. Just thinking about that sharing and the necessity of sharing. And so it’s really hit me during the pandemic, reporting on the people who’ve been in the lines. Because I think about those frozen burritos.

And there’s this tendency for people like me, who’ve experienced poverty, to not talk about it. You want to forget about it, like it didn’t happen. But if we all keep this secret, it creates this stigma where there shouldn’t be one. So I’m glad I’m able to talk about my family’s poverty now, at least a little bit.

annie brown

Did anyone —

stella tan

Yeah, where is the truck?

annie brown

I don’t know.

nikita stewart

It must be down there.

[engine revving]

annie brown

I have had the feeling that the truck is about to arrive for about 45 minutes now. The line’s gotten longer.

nikita stewart

I know. I thought it was going to be over. And then I’m like, oh, more people have shown up now.

annie brown

Yeah.

[car honking]

nikita stewart

Around 3 o’clock —

annie brown

(HESITANTLY) And looks like this is it.

nikita stewart

— the dairy truck finally arrives.

[crowd cheering]

nikita stewart

Volunteers get to work unloading it. And Mohammad starts the line moving again.

mohammad razvi

Wow.

annie brown

How do you feel now?

mohammad razvi

I feel so good now. I just wanted to get that stuff to them. No, you go to go in line. It’s OK. It’s all good. I’m not going to drink all that milk. The line is back on Avenue H. I’m going to take a look.

annie brown

What’s that?

mohammad razvi

The line is back to Avenue H. [COUGHS]

annie brown

Oh no. [PIANO MUSIC]

nikita stewart

For another hour, Mohammad and his dozens of volunteers shepherd person after person through the line, giving out whatever they’ve got left.

stella tan

How do you feel about what you ended up getting today?

pantry-goer

Actually, I feel really great. Because they gave us the organic milk — organic chocolate milk. That will be great for my kids. They love chocolate milk. Yogurt — it’s also organic. So my kids would love that. Cucumbers are good for salad. I love that too. I find this food super healthy. And I am so grateful for the opportunity to be here and to get the free food.

stella tan

Awesome. Thank you so much.

pantry-goer

Thank you, sweetie.

stella tan

Take care.

[music]

nikita stewart

By 4 o’clock, the sidewalk that had been filled with people all day is empty.

[music]

mohammad razvi

It’s all good.

annie brown

What do you say?

mohammad razvi

Thank God. Thank God we were able to get everybody on the line.

annie brown

Yeah.

mohammad razvi

I just don’t want anybody to be turned away.

annie brown

Yeah.

mohammad razvi

You know, because they’re here, they need.

ali

It feels good, you know? You gotta count your blessings. I mean, it’s a blessing for us to be in these people’s lives. For me it definitely is.

nikita stewart

This is Ali, one of COPO’s staff members.

ali

It’s a big thing going on over here. And I hope it continues. I really do hope it continues after December 31. Because that’s like cutoff right now. We don’t know what to do after that.

stella tan

What do you mean that’s the cutoff?

ali

In terms of funding. This is a private foundation. The city didn’t give us anything. So we’re trying to get money from the city to continue this. But they’re doing a lot of cuts in the budget.

nikita stewart

So most pantries in the city operate through private funding. And there are these big question marks about how they’ll manage this winter, when the pandemic is expected to get even worse. In the past, before the pandemic, a lot of the pantries relied on big-time contributors who could give $100,000, $500,000 — a million dollars. And that money has kind of dried up. I talked to this one director. He’s been calling all of his big-time contributors. And they’re saying right now they don’t know what the stock market is going to do. So they don’t know what they’re going to be able to give. This is all really bad news for millions of New Yorkers who are getting in line these days, and tens of millions of people around the country who rely on pantries for their literal survival. You show up at a pantry and you wait for hours, and they might run out of food. And if you’re struggling financially, you can give up certain things. You can give up new clothes. And maybe you don’t give gifts to your kids or your grandkids this Christmas. But you can’t not eat.

mohammad razvi

Thank you so much for coming. Please, right this way. Let me just get my last ravioli out. [CHUCKLES]

nikita stewart

Mohammad has been on his feet for nine hours, nonstop.

mohammad razvi

Thank you. Oh, no, thank you for being here, guys.

nikita stewart

And he’s a little worse for wear.

annie brown

So she we take account of your state at the end of the day? You have a bloody finger.

mohammad razvi

Oh, that’s OK. [CHUCKLES]

annie brown

You have a lost voice. And you have dog poop on your shoe.

mohammad razvi

Oh no.

annie brown

[LAUGHS]

mohammad razvi

I got to wash my feet now.

annie brown

[LAUGHS]

mohammad razvi

But it’s beautiful. There’s no line.

annie brown

There’s no line. All right, thanks so much.

mohammad razvi

God bless. Take care, guys.

nikita stewart

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

stella tan

Thank you.

[music]

[PHONE RINGS]

mohammad razvi

Hey. Good morning.

stella tan

Good morning, Mohammad. How are you?

mohammad razvi

I’m doing wonderful.

stella tan

Good. Thank you for taking my call. I know it’s a busy time.

mohammad razvi

Yes, absolutely. So talk to me. What’s going on?

stella tan

Well, so I guess I’ll start here. So when we visited you last, it was already six months into the pandemic. And people were making the food pantry into a routine. But now it’s November. It’s getting cold. It’s getting dark. We’re heading into the winter and the holidays. And it feels like it would be more difficult now to wait outside the food pantry for hours. And I just wonder, have you felt a change in people’s mood or their approach to the food pantry as it’s gotten colder?

mohammad razvi

The mood hasn’t changed, but they’re still in need. I don’t know what’s going to happen. But we’re trying to purchase these heaters. You ever seen in the restaurants, the heaters are in the tents outside? It looks like a little umbrella. So they get a little bit of warmth. And we’re trying to see how we’re going to speed it up. You know, we’re just trying.

stella tan

Yeah. Well, tomorrow is Friday. And so that is the food pantry’s day. And will you be opening?

mohammad razvi

Yeah, we are. I’m receiving, right now, as we speak about, I don’t know, a few hundred turkeys for Thanksgiving.

stella tan

Wow.

mohammad razvi

Yeah, they called me yesterday. They said, Mo, you’re going to have turkeys. I said, oh, thank God. You know, I was almost in tears. I was like, I didn’t know what I was going to do for Thanksgiving for the people, you know? So they’re sending me a trailer of turkeys. And I’m like, oh my God, it’s going to be so great. So we’re going to be able to distribute it tomorrow. And people are going to be so happy.

stella tan

And in terms of, like — because last time the line was around the block. And so are you still seeing people wait around the block in the morning?

mohammad razvi

Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, they still wait. I mean, I was just listening to the news. There’s no stimulus check or nothing. They’re in a deadlock. And it’s going to be even more difficult because it’s going to be finished on December, I think, 31 — the unemployment checks, the assistance that the federal government’s giving. So it’s really, really more stressful what’s going to happen with the people.

stella tan

And you mentioned that your own funding could run out by the end of the year. Is that still the case?

mohammad razvi

Yes, for the food pantry it’s still the case. And we’re actually talking to our board members and our private donors, trying to figure out how we can raise more funds. We need to.

stella tan

What happens on January 1 if you don’t have more funding?

mohammad razvi

Honestly, I’m going to — I mean, my staff, I’m going to ask them, please, be volunteers for now. Right now I have staff almost of — 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 staff members. And it might go down to, like, two staff members, and continue on a smaller base. And we’re going to just dwindle down. We’ll probably cut the hours less. I don’t know what else to do.

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stella tan

How are you feeling about those changes and sort of looking at the end of the year?

mohammad razvi

I’m very stressed out. Because we really don’t want to stop this program at all now.

stella tan

OK, well, thank you so much, Mohammad. Good luck.

mohammad razvi

All right. God bless.

stella tan

Bye bye.

mohammad razvi

Thanks. Bye bye.

michael barbaro

We’ll be right back.

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Here’s what else you need to know today. On Tuesday, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Minnesota all certified Joe Biden’s election victory, rebuffing efforts by President Trump to delay the process. Those certifications, combined with those in Georgia and Michigan, have left Trump with few ways to block or overturn the election results. And U.S. stock markets surged to record levels on Tuesday after the Trump administration began the transfer of power to Biden, and after Biden appointed Janet Yellen, an advocate of government intervention in the economy, as his Treasury secretary.

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The stock market Dow Jones industrial average just hit 30,000, which is the highest in history. We’ve never broken 30,000.

michael barbaro

The Dow Jones industrial average, which fell below 20,000 points at the start of the pandemic, surpassed 30,000 on Tuesday, a milestone that President Trump, during a news conference, called “historic.”

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That’s a sacred number. 30,000. Nobody thought they’d ever see it.

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That’s it for “The Daily.” I’m Michael Barbaro. See you on Monday, after the holiday.


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On a day early this fall, outside Council of Peoples Organization, a food pantry in Brooklyn, stood a long line of New Yorkers. Many had been there hours before opening. Among their number: A pregnant single mother, a 14-year-old whose parents had recently lost their jobs and many who were turned out of their jobs or unable to work because of the pandemic.

Like many other pantries in the city, this one has seen its demand rocket this year. Once it saw around 60 clients a week, according to its executive director, Mohammad Razvi. Now that number is in the thousands.

With the year drawing to a close, many of New York’s pantries — often run with private money — face a funding crisis.

In today’s episode, Nikita Stewart, who covers social services for The Times, and the Daily producers Annie Brown and Stella Tan spend a day at the Council of Peoples Organization pantry speaking to its workers and clients.



Nikita Stewart, who covers social services for The New York Times.

Annie Brown, a senior audio producer for The Times.

Stella Tan, an associate audio producer for The Times.

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Workers at a Council of Peoples Organization food pantry in Brooklyn, last Friday.Credit...Todd Heisler/The New York Times

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